[9:08:25 PM] *help jιяεђ「: hey ..
[9:08:33 PM] *help jιяεђ「: hang on .. waiting for linda to reply
[9:08:33 PM] Astrid: oh sorry guys :(
[9:08:48 PM] Astrid: i just got home:/
[9:08:53 PM] *help jιяεђ「: oh its fine
[9:09:00 PM] *help jιяεђ「: how was the teeth doctor ..
[9:09:09 PM] Astrid: horrible! >.<
[9:09:13 PM] Astrid: 3 fillings >.<
[9:09:18 PM] Alisa: haha
[9:09:35 PM] Astrid: and..got my x-ray back- and 4 wisdom teeth ARGH!
>.<
[9:09:37 PM] *help jιяεђ「: the teeth doctor had three fillings?!
[9:09:40 PM] *help jιяεђ「: poor dude
[9:09:53 PM] Astrid: naah- i HAD 3 fillings :D
[9:10:27 PM] Alisa: ok...so what are we gonna show for tmroww
[9:11:15 PM] *help jιяεђ「: i'm thinking we do some sketches of how our
catalog will look ..
[9:11:28 PM] *help jιяεђ「: plus maybe a sketch of a jacket too
[9:12:38 PM] Astrid: yeah-
[9:12:49 PM] Astrid: just roughs! but many-
[9:12:53 PM] Astrid: you know what i mean?
[9:13:11 PM] *help jιяεђ「: yea .. something like that
[9:13:40 PM] *help jιяεђ「: hmm did i get linda's number right? .. she
replied 'who is this' .. worrying
[9:13:51 PM] Astrid: ....
[9:14:17 PM] Astrid: um..i think she said something about her mobile n
umber on the cbox thing that we have on the website
[9:14:36 PM] Alisa: ok
[9:14:43 PM] *help jιяεђ「: nah it was her email
[9:15:09 PM] Astrid: oh was it? ":S
[9:15:15 PM] Alisa: so explain how this catalogue relates to the quest
ion again?
[9:15:19 PM] Alisa: it's been so long
[9:15:23 PM] *help jιяεђ「: hmm ..
[9:15:23 PM] *help jιяεђ「: ok
[9:16:06 PM] *help jιяεђ「: we wana do a catalogue and study how people
react to different ways a product is presented to them thr
ough the different media.. how does that sound?
[9:16:49 PM] Astrid: that's great
[9:17:07 PM] Astrid: and like-- how they sort of..um..
[9:17:24 PM] Astrid: what things catch their attention best-
[9:17:35 PM] Astrid: um..how do i put this into words.. :(
[9:18:48 PM] *help jιяεђ「: i think that more or less says it ..
[9:18:53 PM] *help jιяεђ「: can understand ..
[9:19:14 PM] Astrid: oh can you? :D great! :$
[9:20:07 PM] Astrid: we might try different ways of presenting it as w
ell - the use of words - how we communicate and present e
xactly the same information/products differently.
[9:20:27 PM] Alisa: so is it like looking at different kinds of advert
ising techniques?
[9:20:36 PM] *help jιяεђ「: yah
[9:22:15 PM] Alisa: right
[9:22:21 PM] *help jιяεђ「: ali .. u got linda's mobile?
[9:22:32 PM] Alisa: are we moving away from choices then
[9:22:36 PM] Alisa: or just evolving
[9:22:45 PM] Alisa: i haven't got linda's number
[9:22:53 PM] *help jιяεђ「: evolving .. but still its in someways relat
ed to choices
[9:23:20 PM] *help jιяεђ「: like we can study how pple choose to react
on what sort of advertising
[9:23:40 PM] Astrid: agree"- cos like..i think it's the nature of the
catalogue itsElf- no matter what /how we present things -
catalogue = choices
[9:23:52 PM] Astrid: cos there will obviously more than one item/produ
ct-
[9:24:00 PM] Alisa: so it doesn't matter what the objects are really..
.
[9:24:40 PM] *help jιяεђ「: yea
[9:24:54 PM] Astrid: no it doesn't :)
[9:25:06 PM] *help jιяεђ「: but we gotta have a product that will gathe
r attention
[9:25:11 PM] Astrid: um..i was wondering...how 'jacket' will work in t
his catalogue thing, jireh
[9:25:19 PM] Astrid: cos like..sure we can sketch them- but..
[9:25:20 PM] Alisa: yea
[9:25:20 PM] Alisa: me too
[9:25:29 PM] Astrid: how are we going to put them into the catalogue
[9:25:42 PM] Astrid: cos..we can't actually sell things with illustrat
ion :S
[9:25:53 PM] Alisa: i don't feel like it's important
[9:26:07 PM] Alisa: so are we actually trying to sell stuff?
[9:26:08 PM] *help jιяεђ「: winter is coming?
[9:26:13 PM] *help jιяεђ「: yea
[9:26:15 PM] *help jιяεђ「: we are
[9:26:46 PM] Alisa: where's linda?
[9:27:15 PM] *help jιяεђ「: i think that might have been a wrong number
.. the person didn't reply after i said Jireh
[9:27:25 PM] Linda..`` ™ Xx <3 u baby xXx has been added to the conver
sation.
[9:27:27 PM] *help jιяεђ「: THERE SHE IS
[9:27:29 PM] Astrid: so..will the items on the catalogue will be just
like....illustrations?
[9:27:32 PM] *help jιяεђ「: HEY U !!
[9:28:04 PM] Linda..`` ™: yay im here
[9:28:07 PM] Linda..`` ™: :)
[9:28:11 PM] *help jιяεђ「: haha
[9:28:18 PM] *help jιяεђ「: was that your mobile?
[9:28:39 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeh it was
[9:28:43 PM] *help jιяεђ「: haha
[9:28:47 PM] *help jιяεђ「: ok .. i was worried for a moment
[9:28:49 PM] Linda..`` ™: ur number mustnt have saved properly lol
[9:29:06 PM] *help jιяεђ「: okok .. bring her up to speed ..
[9:29:26 PM] Alisa: we're still just talking about the catalogue
[9:29:30 PM] Linda..`` ™: oki
[9:30:11 PM] Alisa: the point of it is "how people react to different
ways a product is presented to m through different med
ia
[9:31:07 PM] *help jιяεђ「: and well we're all agreed on the catalogue
idea .. so we need a product to market ..
[9:31:25 PM] *help jιяεђ「: so we need to confirm a product by tonight
[9:31:49 PM] Linda..`` ™: wer'nt we doing the jacket?
[9:31:51 PM] Astrid: yeah- we need like..a product will be 'do-able'
[9:32:11 PM] Astrid: with the jacket---...
[9:32:34 PM] Astrid: i don't really know how we can create a catalogue
of jackets - cos basically we will need photos...
[9:32:38 PM] Astrid: of the jackets*
[9:32:57 PM] Alisa: should we try different products?
[9:33:12 PM] Alisa: wait no, i meant media
[9:33:33 PM] Alisa: after the catalogue we could try something else. t
o see what gets more attention and why
[9:33:48 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeh
[9:33:52 PM] *help jιяεђ「: product?
[9:33:59 PM] *help jιяεђ「: homeware?
[9:34:01 PM] *help jιяεђ「: gardenware?
[9:34:04 PM] *help jιяεђ「: clothes?
[9:34:11 PM] Linda..`` ™: so are we marketing the one product through
different media types?
[9:34:15 PM] *help jιяεђ「: accessories?
[9:34:29 PM] *help jιяεђ「: yea .. probably step by step
[9:34:30 PM] Astrid: a range* of product-
[9:34:35 PM] Alisa: i think so...one product, different media
[9:34:40 PM] Alisa: haha
[9:34:42 PM] *help jιяεђ「: haha
[9:34:46 PM] Alisa: ok...astrid says
[9:34:52 PM] Alisa: products vs 1 media
[9:34:56 PM] Alisa: hmm
[9:34:58 PM] Linda..`` ™: i think do one product, through different wa
ys
[9:35:16 PM] Alisa: we're exploring the medias not the product so
[9:35:16 PM] *help jιяεђ「: how about .. 1 product that comes in more d
en 1 look ..
[9:35:24 PM] *help jιяεђ「: like one genre of products
[9:35:30 PM] Linda..`` ™: otherwise we arent really coming to any conc
lusion other than pple would be more interested in a cert
ain product
[9:35:35 PM] Astrid: like..tupperwares XD
[9:35:46 PM] Linda..`` ™: and thats about the product not about the me
dia related to it
[9:35:51 PM] *help jιяεђ「: ya
[9:36:23 PM] Linda..`` ™: whereas if we do one product in different me
dia ways then we can tally what gets more attention/inter
est
[9:36:34 PM] Linda..`` ™: like what mode is most effective and persuas
ive
[9:36:50 PM] Alisa: hmm
[9:37:01 PM] *help jιяεђ「: our product can be useless and people will
buy it if our media is good
[9:37:12 PM] Alisa: yea
[9:37:14 PM] Astrid: true- if we really convince them - in a way
[9:37:22 PM] Alisa: so we're coming up with an original product..
[9:37:47 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeh
[9:37:52 PM] *help jιяεђ「: target audience?
[9:39:27 PM] *help jιяεђ「: oh ya .. guys .. you think we should throw
the msn chat log that i sent to astrid onto the blog to f
eed miek alittle on what we have been doing?
[9:39:35 PM] Astrid: first off, what's the product?
[9:39:49 PM] Astrid: :-O
[9:39:52 PM] Alisa: sure if you want to
[9:40:07 PM] Astrid: yar- post anything :D
[9:40:11 PM] *help jιяεђ「: ok linda?
[9:40:21 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeh
[9:40:42 PM] Alisa: god, i hope i didn't say anything horrible
[9:40:47 PM] Linda..`` ™: lol me2
[9:40:52 PM] *help jιяεђ「: lol
[9:40:54 PM] Astrid: no - i don't think so:D
[9:41:00 PM] *help jιяεђ「: astrid screened through right?
[9:41:03 PM] *help jιяεђ「: haha
[9:41:07 PM] Astrid: yar
[9:41:09 PM] *help jιяεђ「: shh .. i'm sending this one too ..
[9:41:23 PM] Astrid: hehe
[9:41:24 PM] Alisa: haha
[9:41:25 PM] Alisa: ok
[9:42:29 PM] Astrid: so..what's the product? :-O
[9:43:13 PM] *help jιяεђ「: eyeware?
[9:43:41 PM] Alisa: too hard
[9:44:11 PM] Astrid: !! clothes-
[9:44:14 PM] Alisa: wrist watch?
[9:44:14 PM] Astrid: oh hold on-
[9:44:18 PM] Alisa: clothes..
[9:44:26 PM] Astrid: we can take photos of our own!
[9:44:28 PM] Astrid: clothes*
[9:44:29 PM] Alisa: like the jacket idea...
[9:44:32 PM] *help jιяεђ「: -.-
[9:44:33 PM] Linda..`` ™: wat about sommin like glow in the dark cloth
ing?
[9:44:39 PM] Alisa: what kind tho
[9:44:43 PM] *help jιяεђ「: that would be good for night bikers
[9:44:48 PM] Astrid: lol
[9:44:52 PM] Linda..`` ™: or clubbing
[9:45:03 PM] Astrid: people might think that they're witnessing an ali
en invasion or something
[9:45:19 PM] Linda..`` ™: no but like not the whole thing glow in the
dark, like glow in the dark patterns
[9:45:37 PM] *help jιяεђ「: its like so 80s ..
[9:45:52 PM] Linda..`` ™: but its sooo cool
[9:47:49 PM] *help jιяεђ「: so we still want to stick to apparels rite?
[9:48:35 PM] Astrid: mm..
[9:48:48 PM] *help jιяεђ「: log posted
[9:48:55 PM] Alisa: right ok
[9:49:13 PM] Astrid: i'm honestly fine with anything- but i'm just wor
ried we will sort of stuck in the middle, if you know wha
t i mean
[9:49:42 PM] Alisa: so target
[9:49:45 PM] *help jιяεђ「: lets get into and get stuck .. when we do .
. we just try to unstick it .. at least we are getting so
mewhere
[9:49:56 PM] Alisa: or no target...just for anybody? that's gonna be h
ard
[9:49:57 PM] *help jιяεђ「: hmm ..
[9:50:10 PM] *help jιяεђ「: i say youths ..
[9:50:19 PM] *help jιяεђ「: those who are still currently studying
[9:50:28 PM] *help jιяεђ「: youth/studying adults
[9:50:51 PM] Alisa: younger than us?
[9:50:58 PM] Alisa: maybe it's easier
[9:51:00 PM] *help jιяεђ「: yea
[9:51:06 PM] *help jιяεђ「: eazier to get response?
[9:51:15 PM] *help jιяεђ「: adults might be too bz with their working l
ives
[9:51:17 PM] Alisa: would they care?
[9:51:39 PM] Alisa: hm
[9:51:49 PM] *help jιяεђ「: but that is an assumption of cos ..
[9:52:04 PM] Astrid: we should pick a product that they're familiar wi
th
[9:52:11 PM] *help jιяεђ「: hmm
[9:52:42 PM] Alisa: ooh i know
[9:52:46 PM] Alisa: how bout lunch boxes
[9:52:49 PM] Alisa: that could be really fun
[9:52:57 PM] Linda..`` ™: (do we have uni on anzac day?)
[9:53:00 PM] *help jιяεђ「: nope
[9:53:04 PM] *help jιяεђ「: uni-less day
[9:53:09 PM] Linda..`` ™: oki ta:)
[9:53:34 PM] Alisa: do kids still use lunchboxes these days?
[9:53:40 PM] Alisa: or do they all go to mackers
[9:53:43 PM] Linda..`` ™: in primary school
[9:53:59 PM] *help jιяεђ「: i would if i could get up early enough to m
ake one
[9:54:03 PM] Alisa: haha...yea
[9:54:16 PM] *help jιяεђ「: might do it for tomorrow
[9:54:24 PM] Alisa: but it just seem like a fun thing to design
[9:54:29 PM] *help jιяεђ「: hmm
[9:54:38 PM] Astrid: um..lunch box, ey? how can we get little people t
o see our catalogue? :-O
[9:54:50 PM] *help jιяεђ「: i see lots of people lining up for sumo sal
ads during lunch at QV
[9:54:57 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeh we have to advertise to people that actu
ally buy stuff
[9:55:11 PM] *help jιяεђ「: and apparently alot of people eat salads he
re ..
[9:55:16 PM] Alisa: well, parents do
[9:55:22 PM] *help jιяεђ「: how about a portable salad machine?
[9:55:28 PM] Linda..`` ™: lol
[9:55:30 PM] *help jιяεђ「: one that tosses your salad for you
[9:55:37 PM] *help jιяεђ「: like u add your veges and all
[9:55:45 PM] *help jιяεђ「: and it chops and mixes at the same time
[9:55:46 PM] Alisa: don't they have one of those already..
[9:55:48 PM] Astrid: oh hold on- i don't know if we can do this, but i
could contact some people who normally provide flyers to h
ouses :D
[9:55:49 PM] Alisa: but just not portable
[9:56:08 PM] Astrid: but i don't know how they would respond to it (th
e people who are looking at our catalogues) :S
[9:56:25 PM] Alisa: yea.. iwonder what percent of those flyers are act
ually looked at
[9:56:28 PM] *help jιяεђ「: haha .. later for that astrid ..
[9:56:32 PM] *help jιяεђ「: focus on the product
[9:56:38 PM] Astrid: oh okay sorry :(
[9:56:54 PM] *help jιяεђ「: so yea .. they have those? ..
[9:57:17 PM] Linda..`` ™: dunno
[9:57:27 PM] *help jιяεђ「: oh .. hmm .. how about ur lunchbox idea ..
fused with a inbuilt warmer?
[9:57:35 PM] *help jιяεђ「: no need for lining up at the microwave
[9:57:45 PM] *help jιяεђ「: just a push of the tab and it heats up the
food
[9:57:48 PM] Linda..`` ™: like a warmer or cooler?
[9:57:54 PM] *help jιяεђ「: more for warming
[9:57:57 PM] Alisa: hmm
[9:58:11 PM] *help jιяεђ「: cos u can throw them in the fridge b4 lunch
to keep it cool anyway
[9:58:16 PM] Alisa: but it should cool the stuff too....maybe u might
want a cold sandwich
[9:58:24 PM] Alisa: so lunchboxes for business ppl?
[9:58:32 PM] Alisa: not for kids
[9:58:38 PM] *help jιяεђ「: can be for sch pple too
[9:58:46 PM] Alisa: or for students like us
[9:58:47 PM] *help jιяεђ「: its safe so kids shd be able to use it too
[9:58:53 PM] Alisa: hm
[9:59:06 PM] Astrid: oh yeah- that'll have a very broad audience
[9:59:09 PM] *help jιяεђ「: yup
[9:59:22 PM] *help jιяεђ「: ok see how this might work is using this pr
oduct's idea
[9:59:30 PM] *help jιяεђ「: http://cgi.ebay.com/6-STAR-HOT-GEL-PACKS-RE
USABLE-HAND-WARMER-PACK-STOCKING_W0QQitemZ190103701729QQi
hZ009QQcategoryZ36439QQcmdZViewItem
[9:59:45 PM] *help jιяεђ「: its a hand warmer pack .. its reusable ..
[10:00:17 PM] *help jιяεђ「: it heats up if you contact the 2 mental pi
eces inside and after a certain time .. it returns to a
softer form
[10:00:33 PM] Alisa: ooh
[10:00:42 PM] *help jιяεђ「: seen it before?
[10:00:47 PM] Astrid: oh yeah - my dad once had one before
[10:00:58 PM] *help jιяεђ「: -nodz-
[10:01:00 PM] Linda..`` ™: i have heat pack like that
[10:01:08 PM] *help jιяεђ「: -nodz nodz-
[10:01:12 PM] Linda..`` ™: u push the metal coin n theres a chemical r
eaction n it goes hot and hard
[10:01:17 PM] *help jιяεђ「: what do you guys think?
[10:01:32 PM] Alisa: that's cool
[10:01:43 PM] Alisa: let's keep that picture..haha
[10:01:50 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeh but why could u want a squishy lunchbox
?
[10:01:52 PM] *help jιяεђ「: its just reusing that idea to work for us
[10:01:54 PM] *help jιяεђ「: haha
[10:01:59 PM] *help jιяεђ「: it doesnt have to be u see
[10:02:10 PM] *help jιяεђ「: it just has to sit INSIDE the box
[10:02:14 PM] *help jιяεђ「: within its walls
[10:02:31 PM] Linda..`` ™: ok
[10:02:40 PM] *help jιяεђ「: and maybe a material that contacts the foo
d will transfer that heat
[10:02:57 PM] Astrid: actually- this is one of the idea for my busines
s card (david's stuff) but yeah- :|
[10:03:02 PM] Astrid: anyway- sorry- random!!
[10:04:06 PM] Astrid: so how are we going to -- present them into the
catalogue?
[10:04:16 PM] Astrid: photos? :-O
[10:04:24 PM] *help jιяεђ「: we can do that
[10:04:37 PM] *help jιяεђ「: just do a mock up that will look real enou
gh
[10:05:05 PM] Astrid: lol! just a plastic filled with water :D
[10:05:06 PM] *help jιяεђ「: or get something close to what we want it
to look and magically 'impose' these amazing properties
into them
[10:05:14 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeh
[10:05:39 PM] Alisa: ok..so something like that
[10:06:11 PM] Alisa: astrid, from last class...it doesn't seem like an
ybody really had anything
[10:06:30 PM] Astrid: i don't think we have to take each and everythin
g- we could use photoshop/other design programs so we ca
n generate 1 or 2 photos into other designs/shapes? :-O
[10:06:37 PM] Alisa: i only saw one group's blog with updated stuff...
like what they're gonna do
[10:06:56 PM] Astrid: which one was it? :-O
[10:07:36 PM] Alisa: the one with all the funny ads
[10:07:49 PM] Astrid: maybe they didn't update the blog? cos they're t
alking in such confidence :/
[10:07:59 PM] Alisa: really
[10:11:35 PM] Alisa: so do we know where this is heading
[10:11:43 PM] *help jιяεђ「: i think so ..
[10:11:46 PM] Alisa: what kindof research are we doing..
[10:11:56 PM] *help jιяεђ「: its a broad audience .. but i think it mig
ht work
[10:12:04 PM] Alisa: how we're gathering the reactions of consumers
[10:12:27 PM] Linda..`` ™: for research tho, is there any way we can g
et in contact with large companies n see what they have
found to be effective?
[10:12:30 PM] Alisa: ...once we have our product, then our catalogue..
[10:12:45 PM] Alisa: hmm
[10:13:04 PM] Linda..`` ™: saves us a little time
[10:13:07 PM] Alisa: we'll probably have to try many companies
[10:13:09 PM] *help jιяεђ「: we can approach camping equipment companie
s that manufacture those warmers
[10:13:11 PM] Linda..`` ™: yes
[10:13:13 PM] Alisa: yea
[10:13:18 PM] *help jιяεђ「: cos these are more camping stuff
[10:13:59 PM] Astrid: um..isn't it related to sports as well? :-O
[10:14:04 PM] *help jιяεђ「: yup
[10:14:07 PM] *help jιяεђ「: it is
[10:14:43 PM] Astrid: i should look at the company's name of the um..i
forgot what it's called - that i have at home
[10:15:23 PM] *help jιяεђ「: Sodium acetate hand warmers thats what the
y are called
[10:16:05 PM] Astrid: whoa- what a cool name- sodium acetate.
[10:16:23 PM] Linda..`` ™: sodium is just salt
[10:16:28 PM] *help jιяεђ「: yup
[10:16:31 PM] *help jιяεђ「: wiki it ..
[10:16:46 PM] Linda..`` ™: chemical reaction
[10:16:48 PM] Linda..`` ™: lol
[10:17:52 PM] Astrid: interesting1
[10:17:54 PM] Astrid: !*
[10:18:56 PM] Alisa: brb
[10:21:06 PM] *help jιяεђ「: oh i'm so loving this section
[10:21:07 PM] *help jιяεђ「: http://www.howstuffworks.com/question290.h
tm
[10:21:56 PM] Astrid: lol
[10:23:04 PM] Astrid: hm-- so..
[10:23:20 PM] Astrid: what should we do now? :-O
[10:23:28 PM] *help jιяεђ「: oh shit i love this sodium acetate
[10:23:33 PM] Alisa: ok
[10:23:34 PM] Linda..`` ™: lol
[10:23:46 PM] Alisa: should we all seperate and start working then
[10:23:50 PM] *help jιяεђ「: its one of the reasons i grew up doing sci
ence experiments
[10:24:00 PM] *help jιяεђ「: yes .. i agree ..
[10:24:19 PM] *help jιяεђ「: but 1 problem .. maximum temperature achie
vable is 54degs .. is that enough?
[10:24:28 PM] Linda..`` ™: hmmmmmmmm
[10:24:46 PM] Linda..`` ™: well a hot shower or spa is usually bout 45
degrees max
[10:24:53 PM] *help jιяεђ「: hmm
[10:24:55 PM] Alisa: that's not very hot is it
[10:25:02 PM] Linda..`` ™: its hot on ur skin
[10:25:03 PM] Alisa: that's kinda just warm
[10:25:06 PM] Alisa: is it?
[10:25:08 PM] Alisa: ok
[10:25:08 PM] *help jιяεђ「: not really .. but this is the part that we
can do magic with media
[10:25:10 PM] Linda..`` ™: and 10 degrees more in real hot
[10:25:17 PM] Linda..`` ™: is*
[10:25:21 PM] Astrid: it's hot enough i guess-
[10:25:33 PM] Astrid: melbourne was 40-45* last summer :S
[10:25:40 PM] *help jιяεђ「: :|
[10:25:43 PM] *help jιяεђ「: okay ..
[10:25:44 PM] Alisa: that's what i was thinkin
[10:25:55 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeh the air n stuff, but the water temperat
ure is different
[10:25:58 PM] Alisa: should we designate what each person should do to
night then
[10:26:09 PM] *help jιяεђ「: ME RESEARCH! :D
[10:26:11 PM] Astrid: alisa: agree
[10:26:23 PM] Astrid: omg- jireh is so like-- pick me pick me :D
[10:26:27 PM] *help jιяεђ「: ooh ooh ooh .. Me research me reseach ..
[10:26:27 PM] Alisa: yea
[10:26:33 PM] Astrid: XD
[10:26:33 PM] *help jιяεђ「: lol
[10:26:35 PM] Linda..`` ™: can i just draw it?
[10:26:45 PM] *help jιяεђ「: yup
[10:26:46 PM] Linda..`` ™: lol coz im gonna fall asleep soon, lol, bee
n at work all day:(
[10:26:55 PM] *help jιяεђ「: okay
[10:26:55 PM] Alisa: i'm gonna look at different catalogs then
[10:27:01 PM] *help jιяεђ「: u're forgiven linda
[10:27:05 PM] Linda..`` ™: thanx:)
[10:27:07 PM] Astrid: hm...
[10:27:09 PM] Alisa: eating Krispy Kreme ahhh
[10:27:15 PM] *help jιяεђ「: AHHH!!
[10:27:18 PM] *help jιяεђ「: KK!
[10:27:20 PM] Astrid: what..should i do.
[10:27:20 PM] Linda..`` ™: now do we want it fancy or just like a norm
al lunchbox?
[10:27:22 PM] *help jιяεђ「: kkk
[10:27:24 PM] Astrid: :|
[10:27:34 PM] Alisa: yea
[10:27:36 PM] *help jιяεђ「: do a mix and see how it goes
[10:27:42 PM] Alisa: do you wanna try designing the boxes?
[10:27:42 PM] *help jιяεђ「: fancy ones for little kiddies
[10:27:46 PM] Linda..`` ™: oki
[10:27:51 PM] *help jιяεђ「: and nice professional ones for working adu
lts
[10:27:56 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeh sure
[10:28:00 PM] *help jιяεђ「: look to muji for ideas
[10:28:07 PM] *help jιяεђ「: thats where we get our 'range'
[10:28:09 PM] Linda..`` ™: oh just one thing.....do u guys want any sp
ecific doughnuts 2moz or can i just chose?
[10:28:25 PM] Alisa: huh?
[10:28:27 PM] *help jιяεђ「: i wana try ur raspberry if you have enough
for urself as well
[10:28:29 PM] *help jιяεђ「: =D
[10:28:36 PM] *help jιяεђ「: and 1 original!!
[10:28:41 PM] *help jιяεђ「: WeEeEEE!!
[10:28:43 PM] Linda..`` ™: oki
[10:28:52 PM] Linda..`` ™: im bringing a box of doughnuts 2moz alisa
[10:28:57 PM] Alisa: u're bringing Krispy Kreme...what an angel
[10:28:59 PM] Astrid: lol!
[10:29:00 PM] *help jιяεђ「: :D~
[10:29:00 PM] Linda..`` ™: (A)
[10:29:08 PM] Alisa: haha
[10:29:19 PM] Linda..`` ™: every1 can chose 3 coz theres 12 in a box
[10:29:21 PM] *help jιяεђ「: anyone that holds donuts and gives them aw
ay is an instant angel to me
[10:29:23 PM] Alisa: do u just get them for free or something?
[10:29:24 PM] Linda..`` ™: im taking orders now lol
[10:29:29 PM] *help jιяεђ「: !!
[10:29:30 PM] Alisa: haha wow
[10:29:31 PM] Linda..`` ™: pretty much
[10:29:32 PM] Astrid: hm-- guys- before you all gone-- any suggestions
of paticular that i can work on?? :(
[10:29:33 PM] *help jιяεђ「: :D~
[10:29:33 PM] Astrid: i'm stuck
[10:29:34 PM] Alisa: i just like the originals
[10:29:40 PM] Linda..`` ™: oki
[10:29:47 PM] Alisa: oh i thought astrid is doing the designs
[10:29:52 PM] Alisa: for the boxes
[10:29:53 PM] Linda..`` ™: no thats me:)
[10:29:59 PM] Alisa: cuz jireh's doing product research
[10:30:01 PM] *help jιяεђ「: original | rasp | custard?
[10:30:04 PM] Linda..`` ™: im drawing:)
[10:30:06 PM] Linda..`` ™: oki done
[10:30:15 PM] Alisa: ok, linda is doing box design
[10:30:18 PM] Alisa: i'm doing the catalogue design
[10:30:39 PM] Alisa: what do you want to do astrid?
[10:30:45 PM] *help jιяεђ「: yes yes research! /punch
[10:31:16 PM] Linda..`` ™: why dont u like see how the product will ac
tualyl work, like figure out the mechanics and reactions
n stuff so it looks real
[10:31:20 PM] Alisa: help her think of something...
[10:31:25 PM] Linda..`` ™: and appears to be feasible
[10:31:35 PM] *help jιяεђ「: tats me >_<
[10:31:40 PM] Linda..`` ™: oh oki
[10:31:41 PM] Astrid: yeah- that's more into jireh's area
[10:31:42 PM] Alisa: yea..
[10:31:50 PM] Astrid: um..
[10:31:51 PM] Linda..`` ™: hmmmmmmmmm
[10:31:56 PM] Linda..`` ™: uses and target market
[10:31:58 PM] Linda..`` ™: ?
[10:32:02 PM] Alisa: do you want to think of how we're gonna market th
is thing
[10:32:15 PM] Alisa: different medias and ways we could spread the wor
d.
[10:32:25 PM] Alisa: or how other products are being marketed?
[10:32:25 PM] Astrid: like..strategies, you mean? :-O
[10:32:31 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeh
[10:32:33 PM] Alisa: yea
[10:32:35 PM] Alisa: haha
[10:32:57 PM] Alisa: if u can think of something else u'd like to do..
go for it
[10:32:58 PM] Astrid: oh okay- yeah- that's different for what you guy
s are doing-
[10:33:08 PM] Astrid: yeah- i'm a bit - stuck right now-
[10:33:24 PM] Astrid: so i'm looking at the actual advertising , yeah?
[10:33:28 PM] Linda..`` ™: yep
[10:33:33 PM] *help jιяεђ「: think lunch box
[10:33:35 PM] Astrid: for our product, and...others that are going on
right now-
[10:33:39 PM] *help jιяεђ「: think how pple will want to buy it
[10:33:44 PM] Astrid: yar-
[10:33:45 PM] *help jιяεђ「: moms will buy for kids
[10:33:57 PM] *help jιяεђ「: students will throw it at each other in sc
hools ..
[10:34:02 PM] Astrid: lol
[10:34:04 PM] *help jιяεђ「: adults will bring lunch in them
[10:34:06 PM] Linda..`` ™: lol
[10:34:08 PM] Astrid: yeah- okay-
[10:34:11 PM] Astrid: thanks guys!! >.<
[10:34:15 PM] Linda..`` ™: nps
[10:34:15 PM] *help jιяεђ「: make an ad .. sketch scenes
[10:34:25 PM] *help jιяεђ「: blue sky blue sky
[10:34:28 PM] Astrid: ...
[10:34:46 PM] Astrid: i'm not quite sure what you're saying, jireh =.=
;
[10:34:58 PM] *help jιяεђ「: haha
[10:35:02 PM] Astrid: anyways :D
[10:35:48 PM] Linda..`` ™: astrid did u want any specific doughnuts 2m
oz?
[10:35:48 PM] Astrid: so..are we going?
[10:35:56 PM] Astrid: oh naah i'll eat everything
[10:35:56 PM] Astrid: lol
[10:36:00 PM] Linda..`` ™: lol oki
[10:36:05 PM] Astrid: i mean anything*
[10:36:08 PM] Astrid: =.=;
[10:36:20 PM] *help jιяεђ「: >:| no everything >:|
[10:36:27 PM] Linda..`` ™: lol
[10:37:42 PM] Alisa: are they looking for new staff????^o)
[10:37:45 PM] Alisa: hehehe
[10:37:53 PM] Linda..`` ™: kk? u can always apply
[10:39:27 PM] *help jιяεђ「: haha
[10:39:40 PM] *help jιяεђ「: comm design is going to take over collins
st i tell u
[10:39:47 PM] Linda..`` ™: lol
[10:40:23 PM] Linda..`` ™: anyways im gonna go now:)
[10:40:27 PM] *help jιяεђ「: alright
[10:40:31 PM] *help jιяεђ「: see you guys tmr
[10:40:40 PM] Alisa: oh god
[10:40:40 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeh, see yas 2moz:)
[10:40:43 PM] Alisa: i dread this class
[10:40:47 PM] Alisa: bubbye
[10:40:47 PM] Linda..`` ™: :S:S:S
[10:40:48 PM] *help jιяεђ「: be safe on your way to uni linda
[10:40:52 PM] Linda..`` ™: it'll be fine
[10:40:57 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeh i will.....with the stash
[10:40:58 PM] *help jιяεђ「: you hold important documents
[10:41:02 PM] Astrid: lol!
[10:41:02 PM] *help jιяεђ「: yes
[10:41:07 PM] Alisa: haha
[10:41:07 PM] Astrid: in doughnut format? :D
[10:41:11 PM] *help jιяεђ「: ;)
[10:41:14 PM] Linda..`` ™: hehe
[10:41:15 PM] Alisa: night night
[10:41:18 PM] *help jιяεђ「: haha
[10:41:19 PM] *help jιяεђ「: cya ..
[10:41:21 PM] Linda..`` ™: nite:)
[10:41:26 PM] Linda..`` ™: (BOO)
[10:41:37 PM] Linda..`` ™ Xx <3 u baby xXx has left the conversation.

[5:26:59 PM] Alisa: has anybody been doing anything?
[5:27:03 PM] *help j??e??: ok lets brainstorm on something to say
[5:27:52 PM] *help j??e??: ali .. its a question that we will feel too
guilty to answer
[5:28:32 PM] *help j??e??: lets think about it now ..
[5:28:46 PM] Alisa: i know
[5:28:49 PM] Alisa: even me
[5:28:52 PM] Alisa: i can't answer that...
[5:28:54 PM] *help j??e??: we did discuss about it the last time that
we wanted to do some form of a fake product right?
[5:28:56 PM] Alisa: i'm ashamed!!!!
[5:28:57 PM] Alisa: hahaha
[5:29:04 PM] *help j??e??: U DVD WATCHER U
[5:29:06 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeah
[5:29:14 PM] *help j??e??: remember to bring them tomorrow ok?
[5:29:27 PM] Alisa: yes
[5:30:13 PM] Alisa: i wanted to make a catalogue of really stupid stuf
f...useless stuff that ppl might buy
[5:30:21 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeah i reckon thats a good idea
[5:30:22 PM] Alisa: what paper are you collecting?
[5:30:34 PM] *help j??e??: Freelife felt cream 320 GSM
[5:30:38 PM] *help j??e??: A1 size
[5:30:39 PM] Alisa: k?
[5:30:46 PM] Alisa: oh you ordered it?
[5:31:00 PM] *help j??e??: yea had to .. larger then A3 needs ordering
[5:31:12 PM] Linda..`` ™: why do u need an A1?
[5:31:15 PM] *help j??e??: I'm agreed with the catalogue thing
[5:31:30 PM] Alisa: why don't we brainstorm our own ideas
[5:31:43 PM] *help j??e??: oh cos they don't have A2 and my packaging
needs a large sheet to cut from
[5:31:45 PM] Alisa: like really 'out there' sutff
[5:32:30 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeah
[5:33:09 PM] Alisa: maybe we could do some sketches and even make crap
py models of them...so they see we made something...
[5:33:39 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeah, i think sketches are good, maybe pictu
res even
[5:33:43 PM] *help j??e??: hmm
[5:33:44 PM] Alisa: hmm
[5:33:47 PM] Alisa: hey..
[5:33:51 PM] Alisa: i said hmm first
[5:33:53 PM] *help j??e??: -.-
[5:34:07 PM] *help j??e??: kik
[5:34:28 PM] *help j??e??: don't snatch my 'hmm-ing' space
[5:34:36 PM] Linda..`` ™: (HEHE)
[5:34:46 PM] *help j??e??: hmm ..
[5:34:57 PM] *help j??e??: we could even make a song?
[5:34:59 PM] *help j??e??: lol
[5:35:03 PM] Alisa: a song?
[5:35:09 PM] Linda..`` ™: ...?
[5:35:10 PM] Alisa: about what?
[5:35:13 PM] Linda..`` ™: why a song?
[5:35:27 PM] Alisa: isn't that stepping over some other group's territ
ory
[5:35:30 PM] *help j??e??: hmm ..
[5:35:36 PM] Alisa: the ppl singin in the lane thing
[5:35:41 PM] *help j??e??: right ..
[5:37:18 PM] Alisa: so yea
[5:37:23 PM] Alisa: let's come up with some stuff
[5:38:15 PM] *help j??e??: i'm thinking .. but nothing makes sense in
my head .. @@
[5:38:25 PM] Linda..`` ™: aww
[5:39:10 PM] *help j??e??: i have this idea about making miniture matc
hboxes with toothpicks inside instead of matches .. but i
don't know what i'm gonna do with that
[5:39:44 PM] Alisa: haha
[5:40:02 PM] Alisa: like a carrycase for toothpicks
[5:40:03 PM] *help j??e??: OH I KNOW
[5:40:04 PM] Alisa: genius
[5:40:26 PM] Alisa: yea...exactly what i was looking for...totally mea
ningless and redundant
[5:40:28 PM] *help j??e??: how about we declare a day to be a half ele
ctric day or something
[5:40:53 PM] *help j??e??: like you know how they had that idea of eve
ry wednesday being turn it off day?
[5:41:05 PM] *help j??e??: for offices to turn off their lights after
office hours
[5:41:27 PM] Linda..`` ™: oki
[5:41:28 PM] *help j??e??: lets spread a note everywhere to declare a
day where shops turn off HALF their lights for a day
[5:42:13 PM] *help j??e??: its like a challenge to efficiently cut dow
n your power usage to half and still maintain operation
[5:42:24 PM] Alisa: do any of you have astrid's number...we should txt
her to get her online
[5:42:34 PM] *help j??e??: hmm lemme check
[5:42:46 PM] Linda..`` ™: i dont
[5:43:07 PM] *help j??e??: me neither ..
[5:43:12 PM] Alisa: ok
[5:43:15 PM] Alisa: shoot
[5:43:21 PM] *help j??e??: we better get linda's
[5:43:31 PM] Linda..`` ™: my number oh oki
[5:43:33 PM] *help j??e??: yupz
[5:43:40 PM] Linda..`` ™: 040********
[5:43:45 PM] *help j??e??: mine is .. 042*******
[5:43:46 PM] *help j??e??: i think
[5:43:53 PM] *help j??e??: i hope
[5:43:56 PM] Linda..`` ™: oki ta:)
[5:44:09 PM] *help j??e??: let me check
[5:44:16 PM] Linda..`` ™: oki
[5:44:26 PM] *help j??e??: oh shit
[5:44:32 PM] *help j??e??: i gave the wrong number to paper point
[5:44:36 PM] *help j??e??: haha
[5:44:40 PM] Alisa: huh?
[5:44:44 PM] *help j??e??: 042********
[5:44:51 PM] *help j??e??: i don't remember my own number
[5:44:51 PM] Linda..`` ™: ta:)
[5:45:05 PM] Alisa: so are we still doing this?
[5:45:10 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeh i had a lil trouble when i 1st got my ne
w number
[5:45:21 PM] Alisa: or do u guys wanna do something else
[5:45:34 PM] *help j??e??: which one?
[5:46:00 PM] Alisa: the catalogue one
[5:46:11 PM] *help j??e??: ok
[5:46:16 PM] Alisa: we have no direction at all
[5:46:18 PM] *help j??e??: we still brainstorming right?
[5:46:47 PM] *help j??e??: well i think my idea is the 'half light' da
y
[5:47:12 PM] *help j??e??: and on the day itself we can interview thos
e shops that do actually cut down and those that dont
[5:47:26 PM] Linda..`` ™: 'i think the catalouge is a good idea
[5:47:28 PM] *help j??e??: its all about choice?
[5:47:35 PM] *help j??e??: okie!
[5:47:35 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeh thats good too
[5:47:45 PM] Alisa: hmm
[5:47:47 PM] *help j??e??: what we gonna sell?
[5:48:04 PM] Alisa: i don't know if we're actually gonna sell anything
[5:48:23 PM] *help j??e??: hmm .. ok .. what will we want to "Sell"
[5:49:18 PM] Linda..`` ™: uhhhh
[5:56:05 PM] Linda..`` ™: arent we selling either conservation or in t
he catalouge the fact that pple get interested once theyr
e shown an item
[5:56:30 PM] *help j??e??: ya .. but we need an item to focus on
[5:56:51 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeh true
[5:57:02 PM] *help j??e??: hang on ./
[5:57:04 PM] Linda..`` ™: wat about an item that conserves...huh?:P
[5:58:09 PM] *help j??e??: we were just saying .. we need an item to f
ocus on first
[5:58:23 PM] *help j??e??: do we want to do a range?
[5:58:27 PM] Alisa: sorry
[5:58:30 PM] *help j??e??: or just one item?
[5:58:49 PM] Alisa: maybe a range
[5:59:24 PM] *help j??e??: winter clothes?
[5:59:31 PM] *help j??e??: since winter is approaching
[6:00:04 PM] Alisa: yea
[6:00:18 PM] Alisa: specialized clothes
[6:01:12 PM] *help j??e??: jackets!
[6:01:15 PM] *help j??e??: i love jackets
[6:01:38 PM] Alisa: ok...
[6:01:45 PM] Alisa: maybe they can detect rain
[6:01:49 PM] Alisa: or something
[6:01:51 PM] *help j??e??: in winter -.-
[6:01:57 PM] Linda..`` ™: i love jackets that make u not feel fat like
u have 1000 layers on
[6:02:01 PM] Alisa: like...warns you about the weather
[6:02:04 PM] Alisa: hahah
[6:02:10 PM] *help j??e??: hmm ..
[6:02:17 PM] *help j??e??: i know!
[6:02:33 PM] *help j??e??: minus zero degrees sweaters
[6:02:53 PM] *help j??e??: they are small .. tight fitting .. but can'
t take low temperatures
[6:02:57 PM] *help j??e??: our product can
[6:03:15 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeah like from a new fibre thats holds in he
at
[6:03:16 PM] *help j??e??: have just a tshirt underneath and still go
out in the snow
[6:03:18 PM] Linda..`` ™: wind proof
[6:03:23 PM] *help j??e??: waterproof
[6:03:39 PM] *help j??e??: doubles as a rain coat
[6:03:47 PM] *help j??e??: MAN .. now even i want to have one
[6:03:47 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeh
[6:03:59 PM] Alisa: haha
[6:04:05 PM] Linda..`` ™: and....maybe u can design the colours urself
...
[6:04:08 PM] Linda..`` ™: like the pattern on it
[6:04:11 PM] *help j??e??: hmm ..
[6:04:22 PM] Linda..`` ™: like choose from the range
[6:04:22 PM] *help j??e??: heat changes the color?
[6:04:28 PM] Alisa: are you talking about things ppl can actually make
?
[6:04:34 PM] *help j??e??: so people can bring it home .. cut out thei
r own stencils
[6:04:37 PM] Linda..`` ™: ooh heat colour change
[6:04:41 PM] *help j??e??: and iron it on the sweater
[6:04:45 PM] Alisa: then i am not on the same page, haha
[6:04:54 PM] *help j??e??: and the design will stay until u rinse it
[6:05:00 PM] *help j??e??: in water or some temperature
[6:05:10 PM] Linda..`` ™: well if its waterproof...hmmm
[6:05:18 PM] Linda..`` ™: u gotta put it in the dryer or sommin, real
hot
[6:05:24 PM] *help j??e??: hmm yea ..
[6:05:31 PM] *help j??e??: so temperature will affect the colors
[6:05:42 PM] *help j??e??: its not something that we can make alisa ..
[6:05:58 PM] *help j??e??: something like what we are saying is probab
ly going to cost thousands to make one
[6:06:03 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeh
[6:06:09 PM] *help j??e??: we are selling them at just 39.95 ;)
[6:06:21 PM] Linda..`` ™: but if it came to be real, pple could go 2 t
he shop n say wat they wanted n get it made up
[6:07:00 PM] *help j??e??: woah
[6:07:12 PM] *help j??e??: we wouldn't be running a shop anymore .. it
will be a lab
[6:07:25 PM] Linda..`` ™: lol like the design not the item lol
[6:07:34 PM] *help j??e??: OH MAN !! our company can be "THE LAB COAT"
[6:07:42 PM] *help j??e??: how wicked is that
[6:07:50 PM] Linda..`` ™: haha cool!
[6:08:05 PM] Alisa: you guys sound excited
[6:08:08 PM] *help j??e??: lol
[6:08:08 PM] Alisa: that is good
[6:08:18 PM] Alisa: so you mean
[6:08:24 PM] Alisa: we sell ideas so ppl can go make it themselves
[6:08:28 PM] *help j??e??: hmm
[6:08:34 PM] Alisa: what a lazy brilliant idea
[6:08:37 PM] *help j??e??: haha
[6:08:41 PM] *help j??e??: nooo..
[6:08:55 PM] *help j??e??: we make a catalouge that promotes this prod
uct that we were talking about
[6:09:15 PM] *help j??e??: we make a fake company that ships this rang
e of products to the customers
[6:09:21 PM] *help j??e??: so we technically don't need a shop
[6:09:33 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeah, like pple dont make it, our company ma
kes it, just when they come to order one they tell us wat
colours...?
[6:09:46 PM] *help j??e??: paper catalouge to attract people's attenti
on and online E shop to convince them
[6:10:17 PM] Alisa: right
[6:10:20 PM] Linda..`` ™: good idea
[6:10:28 PM] Alisa: maybe we should look at the nature of catalogues
[6:10:55 PM] Linda..`` ™: paper....print...hmmmm
[6:11:15 PM] Alisa: how it affects ppl's choices
[6:11:21 PM] *help j??e??: -nodz-
[6:11:46 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeh exactly thats wat we're doing....we're s
howing that pple choose items only when they are availabl
e
[6:11:48 PM] Alisa: how it makes us want something....when we don't ne
ed it
[6:11:49 PM] *help j??e??: i'll say the size of the word "NEW" affects
people's choice
[6:11:53 PM] Linda..`` ™: yes
[6:11:56 PM] Linda..`` ™: bingo
[6:12:02 PM] Linda..`` ™: anyways guys i gtg eat my dinner
[6:12:20 PM] *help j??e??: so settled on jackets?
[6:12:23 PM] Alisa: i gotta go make it
[6:12:28 PM] Alisa: sigh
[6:12:29 PM] *help j??e??: i made mine
[6:12:30 PM] Linda..`` ™: yeh, oh and wat was ur number again?
[6:12:32 PM] *help j??e??: curry again
[6:12:38 PM] *help j??e??: 042*****
[6:12:41 PM] Linda..`` ™: thanx:)